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Mike M.

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:24 am    Post subject: Forclosure liability after chapter 13 discharge
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My chapter 13 was discharged about 2 years ago in Arizona. About 3 months ago, I did a loan modification with the lender. We will soon fall behind, and are considering moving to Texas. I can probably stay only a month or two behind for 6-8 months, but it will eventually catch up to me. If we let the mortgage laps to 120 days, I assume forclosure proceedings will ensue. If I just walk away from the property and move to Texas, what will be my financial liability - worst case?
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Post Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:20 am    Post subject:
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Welcome Mike,

If you walkaway from the property or stop paying the mortgage dues, your bankruptcy case will get dismissed. The court will check out if you qualify for Chapter 7 or not. If you qualify for a Chapter 7 bankruptcy, then it would be converted into that. If you do not qualify, then your bankruptcy filing will get dismissed and the lender will foreclose it and try to recover his dues. You will also become liable for the deficient amount resulting from the foreclosure sale.

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:16 pm    Post subject: keeping home afeter Chapter 7
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Filed Chapter 7 in July 2008 discharged in October 2008 Finished paying trustee for assets in Aug 2009. Both first and second mortgages were discharged in the chapter 7. I received a notice that sherif sale will be on 12/10/2009 which in my state will give us about 6 months after that to vacate. I have heard that if I start making payments on the first mortgage only and lender takes pmt that will allow us to keep the home and the 2nd mortgage will not foreclose or ask for payment since it was discharged -even though both mortgages are with the same bank?- Is this correct please help.
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Post Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:01 am    Post subject:
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If you regularly pay off the mortgage dues, then the lender will not foreclose the property and will allow you to stay in the property. However, your payments will not be reported to the credit bureau. Thus, you would be making payments but your credit will not get improved. If you want to save the property and pay off the dues, then it's better to reopen the bankruptcy and reaffirm the mortgage. As far as the second loan is concerned, the lender will still hold the lien on the property. You should check out whether or not it's written in your bankruptcy discharge documents that the second lender will not be able to sue you for the debts.
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Post Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:20 pm    Post subject: home
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what if i stop paying my mortgage after my bankruptcy will they try to make a deal with us or just foreclose
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Post Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:05 pm    Post subject:
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Hi poopo,

The lender would simply foreclose the property if you stop your mortgage payments after bankruptcy. I don't think they would make a deal with you.

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:31 pm    Post subject:
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Boy you got a bunch of bad advice. i know this is old and i hope resolved. if you included the house in bankruptcy and did not reaffirm, if the house forecloses, it does not AFFECT your credit score. It was already included in bankruptcy and you are and cannot be held liable for any deficiency.
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Post Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:53 pm    Post subject: trying to up my credit score
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Filed for bankruptcy 2 years ago, lawyer didnt reaffirm my mortgage or 2nd mortgage like I wanted him to. On my credit report it shows the mortgages were in the bankruptcy. I have been paying them both on time for the last 2 years thinking this would help my credit score. Neither is reporting. How can I get my mortgage company to start reporting good things? This is my only credit, can I do something to get it reported
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Post Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:17 pm    Post subject:
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Welcome Guest,

As you haven't reaffirmed the debts, the lender is not obligated to report the payments to the credit bureau. This is because you are not personally liable for the debts. You can contact the lender and negotiate with him so that he reports your payments to the credit bureau.

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Post Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:24 pm    Post subject: Forclosure after chapter 7 bankruptcy
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I filed chapter 7 bk to relieve our credit card dept. The house was not included but we did not reaffirm with the mortgage company. As long as we keep current on our loan can they foreclose on us and will we keep our house until it is paid in full?
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Post Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:14 am    Post subject:
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i think you should speak to your lawyer who helped you to file the bankruptcy. if ur saying that there is no forecloser on your home then.how to reaffirmed it .or any good plan which can help you to keep your home and how u can protect the credit score.

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Post Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:29 pm    Post subject: bk
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when you file a bk, the personal liability goes away, that is you are no longer personally liable for the note(s) you signed. This is true for all the debt you had at the time of the bk.

Understand, all of your debts, whether you intended to keep paying or not, are included in the bankruptcy, nothing is left out.

Now your mortgages, the mortgagor still has the lien on the property, both your first and second. The question is whether the mortgagor has the right to foreclose. In CA a mortgagor can only foreclose pursuant to the deed of trust, which requires that you are in default of the deed before then can begin a non-judicial foreclosure.

In order to refinance, you would have to satisfy both liens, as the your chapter 7 did not void the liens on your property.

If the house is foreclosed, you do not have any personal liability, as you received a discharge of the debt.

Reaffirmation of mortgages is generally not a good idea, and any attorney worth his salt would not sign off on a reaff. A reaff allows the creditor to retain the right to sue you, so depending on your state's law, so may mortgagor, particularly non-purchase money mortgages. As such, reaffirming such a large debt can become problematic if you were to default and you were to get sued.
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Post Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:36 am    Post subject: BK
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If the mortgage company does do a foreclosure and you've never signed an affirmation, can that mortgage company report the foreclosure to the credit bureau's?
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Post Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:33 am    Post subject:
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Hi Cinda,

As far as I know, the mortgage lender can report the foreclosure to the credit bureaus but it won't be able to come after you for the deficient amount.

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Post Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:22 am    Post subject: home loan modification after bk7
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I did my 4 home loan modification for 10 months already but I still not get approve yet and I just filed chapter 7 a month ago and I surrender 3 houses and try to need one, and this house I behind 2 months mortgage payments already and I don't have enough for this month. Is my lender foreclosure my home after my bk discharge? would you please give me suggestion? thanks
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