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Mortgage Debt Relief Act - Is it applicable in California?

The Mortgage Debt Forgiveness Tax Relief Act is not yet applicable in California, although it has been effective in all other states. It allows one to avoid paying taxes on the canceled debt/deficiency when he's not able to pay off the mortgage anymore.

Debt Relief Act - how it applies to short sale/foreclosure


If you're unable to afford the current mortgage payments, and it isn't possible to refinance with FHA Secure, then you may consider going for a short sale, if you're staying in a declining market where the home sale price will not be enough to cover balances on both the loans. So, you need to pay off the remaining balance on the combined loan amount.

If your lender accepts a short sale, and if it's a purchase loan, he may not ask for the deficiency (difference between unpaid loan balance and price at which lender sells off your property) on the primary mortgage, provided the property is your primary residence. But, the anti-deficiency laws are not applicable in case of second mortgages. Therefore, you can avoid paying deficiency on the first but not on the second.

Now, if it is a refinance loan, the lender will ask for the deficiency if the short sale doesn't yield much to cover the combined debt. In case you fail to pay the deficiency on then the unpaid amount is considered as income and the IRS requires you to pay federal income tax on the unpaid debt. However, this rule is applicable only in California where the Mortgage Debt Forgiveness Tax Relief Act, 2007 is yet to be implemented unlike other states where it has already come into effect. In all other states, if the lender forgives your unpaid debt or deficiency, you need not pay tax on it. However, the Mortgage Debt Forgiveness Tax Relief Act can help you with tax relief only under certain conditions.

Moreover, the Mortgage Debt Relief Act applies even if your property is foreclosed and there's a deficiency amount left to be paid. However, if you opt for a deed-in-lieu, the lender may not ask for a deficiency in most cases, as is the general rule.
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Mortgage Debt Relief Act 2007

Has this Act taken affect in California yet?

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject:

It is Federal Legislation so I assume it has taken affect. It was passed in August. It just protects against the forgiven debt from being taxed as income. "FHA Secure" may also be what you are looking for?

"FHASecure expands the FHA's ability to offer refinancing by giving it the flexibility to work with homeowners who have good credit histories but cannot afford their current payments. By the end of 2008, the FHA expects this program to help more than 300,000 families refinance their homes."

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Non Recourse Loans?

thanks. On another note...I have a first and 2nd on my home (primary res. no other property owned) and both mortgages we used to purchase my home, they have never been refi'd, they are both with the same lender. I bought the home in 6/2006. Are both of my loans non-recourse loans or could the 2nd mortage get a DJ against me for the loan amount on the 2nd?
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:21 pm    Post subject:

My education tells me they would both only be secured by your home but that is a really good question. I am nearly sure they are both non-recourse loans but could it be governed differently in California?

I don;t think so but I asked Cliff...

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:30 pm    Post subject:

Thanks! I look forward to Cliff's answer.

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject:

What are you trying to accomplish?
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject:

I"m trying to find out what recourse the lender has against me if I try to work out DIL or short sale and avoid foreclosure. I know that with foreclosure they can't come back on me for more. But with the DIL or SS I want to know what they have legal right to do. If both loans are non-recourse I have a bargaining chip to avoid the foreclosure process since the outcome will be the same. In that case, either they agree to a DIL and forgive the debt and call it good, or they foreclose and add their foreclosure costs on top of the debt the they have to forgive.

However, if my 2nd is a recourse loan, then I don't have that bargaining chip and if they can come after me for the loan balance on the 2nd, then BK gets put on the table. Of course I'd like to avoid that...
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject:

With the DIL the second mortgage could possibly still be attached. So I would say the Short Sale will be a much better option for you. When you work with someone who really knows how to do a short sale they will take care of the second. For many reasons, it is extremely important that you work with someone that really knows the short sale process well.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:31 am    Post subject:

Hi suen.

The Mortgage Debt Relief Act 2007 or Mortgage forgiveness Act does not apply in California. So if your debt is forgiven then you will have to pay tax on it as it will be considered as your income.

BTW know more about Tax Break for Mortgage Debt Forgiveness at http://www.mortgagefit.com/tax/debtforgiveness-reliefact.html

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:16 am    Post subject:

Thanks Larry. I spoke to FTB the day after I asked this question. So the Mortgage Debt Relief Act 2007 only applies to Federal Taxes but not State, as you say. So, there would be no Fed taxes but there would be State. That said, I spoke to a BK Atty who told me that since both of my loans are purchase money loans, which makes them non-recourse loans, I wouldn't be liable for the taxes either. Is that your understanding as well?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:19 am    Post subject: RE: tax on non recourse loan - mtge debt relief act

Hi Suen,

Nice to have you back here. But did you get logged out while posting?

I think there's a slight confusion here. It is true that the tax on unpaid debt is a kind of federal tax and not state tax. And in case of a purchase loan, one doesn't need to pay the deficiency if he's in California (anti-deficiency law). But just because the Mortgage Debt Relief doesn't apply here, one has to pay tax on any unpaid deficiency amount.

I hope I could clarify it. If you have further doubts, please don't hesitate to discuss with us here.

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