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10 Big Second Mortgage Mistakes to stay away from

Going for a second mortgage and managing it may not be tough if you've already taken a loan against your home. However, there are loopholes which you would surely like to avoid. So, prior to moving on with a second loan, take a look at the 10 big mistakes which can spoil your deal and make things worse for you.

1. Not being aware of Home equity loans and Helocs


Home equity loans and Helocs are both second mortgages taken against your home equity. But one is a fixed rate loan mostly while the other is an adjustable rate loan. Besides, the former allows you to take the loan funds at a single payment, the latter offers the credit line option wherein you can get advances till you don't exceed the available credit limit.

Moreover, the purpose of these loans are different, for example, you consolidate debts with equity loan or go for home improvement but when it comes to periodic needs, it's the credit line that you opt for. So, all you need is a basic understanding of both loans to make them work for you.

2. Taking out a large credit line


Think twice before you take out a large credit line. The credit line will be taken into account when you apply for other loan and possibly you can get rejected too.

Most often your credit line payments are determined on the basis of total credit liability even though there may be zero balance on your credit line. As such, a large credit line implies large payments which may affect your ability of repaying the second mortgage or other loans as well.

3. Not shopping enough for the best loan


You may decide to take out the loan from a bank where you have a checking account. But if you wish to get the best loan for your needs, look out for one which can give you some benefits and help you save due to lower rate of interest.

Hence, shop around with some lenders/brokers as well as they can provide you with a wide range of offers to compare and choose the best out of all.

4. Not asking for Good Faith Estimate


It's your lender's responsibility to provide you with a Good Faith estimate (GFE) after you apply. It helps you with a breakdown of the fees involved. So, you can be assured of not paying hidden fees and costs. So, even if your lenders forget, just remind him that you are yet to receive the GFE.

5. Thinking a Second Mortgage costs you less


You may have to pay less on a second mortgage than if you are managing a credit card. To know which is better, you need to consider the interest rate on credit card and the effective rate on second mortgage after taking into account the tax deduction. Say for example, you have taken a Heloc. Its effective rate is given by,

Effective rate = rate* (1 - tax bracket)

If your tax bracket is 30% and the actual rate on the credit line is 15%, then,
Effective rate is = 15% * (1 - 0.3) = 15% * 0.7 = 10.5%

Now, if your credit card interest rate is higher than 10.5%, then the second mortgage will be cheaper to manage.

6. Going for second mortgage when you plan to Refinance


Lenders may not allow for a first mortgage refinance when you already have a second loan on the same property. They may look out for the combined loan amount even if you refinance only the first loan.

Lenders may either ask you to pay off both the loans completely or pay down the second loan when you refinance. However, they can allow you to keep the second loan only if you can get a subordination agreement from the second mortgage lender.

The agreement ensures that the second loan has less priority with respect to the new refinance loan. Thus, you need to consult the lender offering refinance loan as to whether he will allow you to keep the second mortgage. You can also compare the rates on the refinance and the second loan to find out if it makes sense to keep the second mortgage and refinance the first or else refinance both into a single loan.

7. Being unaware of Second Mortgage Tax Deduction


There may be cases when your home equity loan/heloc isn't fully tax-deductible. It is better that you don't depend on the lender for such information; rather you should check this out with a tax advisor or CPA.

8. Use Heloc to pay off credit card debts


If you have taken out a Heloc to pay off credit card debts, check that you don't exhaust the available credit limit totally. You may later on find it hard to make the payments in time thereby being unable to manage it.

9. Being unaware of prepayment penalty


There may be a prepayment penalty clause associated with your second mortgage and it can cost you a lot of dollars. So, watch out for the penalty if you are planning to sell or refinance within a short time.

10. Not knowing about life cap


Usually home equity lines of credit have life caps due to which the interest rate can go up much higher than expected and then you will have to make the payments accordingly. So, plan your budget and keep cash reserve so that you can use them just in time.

Be it debt consolidation or getting cash for repairs or paying off credit card debts, a second mortgage can be the best choice for your purpose. But you need to know the tips and traps so that you can utilize it in the best possible way.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:12 am    Post subject:

Hi! i bought a house for $1,20,000 and its appraised value is $1,70,000. So can i take a home equity loan on the equity, that is, $60,000 to pay down the home mortgage?will the lender allow me to take this kind of loan if I say that I shall repay the first mortgage with the equity loan?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:41 am    Post subject: RE:

Hi Marilyn,

Generally a lender makes a mortgage loan on the basis of the sale price or the appraised value, whichever is less. You can get an equity out of your property either by selling it or financing it. But the interest rate on a second mortgage or a home equity loan often being higher than a first mortgage, it does not make sense paying the first loan with the second.

Before you proceed towards getting a loan, consult the loan officer and check your borrowing ability. Also talk to a real estate broker regarding the bidding and deposit requirements for a local foreclosure sale.

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:13 pm    Post subject: Home equity line cap

We feel like we have been dupped by a fast talking mortgage rep.
Ten months ago we applied for a home equity loan, and were sold a home equity line of credit at an intro interest rate of 5.25% it is now up to 10.25%.
The rep. told us it would not go above 9%. Well after pulling out all the paper work and reading the fine print the cap is 18%!
Can a home equity loan be refinanced to a fixed rate?
Our home value is appx. $195,000. Our first mortage is $107,000 at 5.7%
our equity balance is $58,500. Which was used for debt. consolidation and home improvement costs.
We are at a quandry on what to do, consolidate into one mortage or refinance the home equity loan? We have owned this home 3 yrs.
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:30 pm    Post subject:

Hi Laura,

These things happen sometimes and so it's always better to have all the offers in paper than believing the words of a representative of the company. Anyways people do learn from mistakes.

I think it's better to consolidate your mortgage under one head and try to pay it off rather than going for a new mortgage.

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:10 pm    Post subject:

Some more information is required about your income, credit, loan amounts.

An HELOC can be converted to a fixed rate. You should ask your lender about that.
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:14 pm    Post subject:

Did you question your company about the commitment of the representative? Shocked I think it's better to refinance with a different company. A good mortgage broker can come to your help.
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:31 pm    Post subject:

Hi Laura,

Welcome to MortgageFit Forums.

I feel bad about the way the representative had misguided you. Now credit lines allow a lower rate in the initial stage but your payments go up as the Federal Reserve raises short-term rates.

This makes credit lines less attractive deals today with frequent rise in rates. Since it is becoming tough for you to meet the hike, it's wise to refinance it into a fixed rate home equity loan.

Consolidating the loans is also another option. You can refer a reputable mortgage broker in your area with all your docs.

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 5:13 pm    Post subject:

How is your credit? Both of them can be put under 30 year fixed.
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject:

lender was talking about some optional credit insurance with the home equity loan, what is it?
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject:

Hi Wolfe,

Welcome to Mortgagefit forum.

Some loan packages include optional credit insurance could be like disability credit life or unemployment insurance. Based on type of policy this credit insurance can cover part or most of your payments in case you are not able to make them.

Let me tell you that you are not required to buy any such optional credit insurance and that is why these are called as optional. Only buy insurance which you need.

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject:

Wolfe, credit insurance can be bad deal if premium on such insurance is collected up-front at the time of closing & is financed as part of the loan.

However, if you do require optional credit insurance then inquire about possibility of being allowed to pay for it on a monthly basis after the approval & closing of the loan. It will be helpful as with monthly insurance premiums you will not have to pay interest. And afterwards if you think that you do not require the insurance or if the premiums are too high then you can select to cancel the insurance.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject:

would it be considered as a mistake if I take out a second mortgage instead of refinancing my first, how to decide if I am right in taking a second one & not refinancing my first?
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject:

Hi Dunham,

Welcome to Mortgagefit discussion board.

You need to first compare rate on your present mortgage with current interest rate for same type of mortgage. Plus also check for how many years you have this first mortgage now.

Let us assume that you have been making payments on your current mortgage for only a few years now & present interest rates are quite close to what you have on your existing mortgage. In such situation you can consider refinancing your present mortgage.

But if rate on your present mortgage is substantially lower than current market rates & you are making payments towards your present mortgage for quite a few years now (say more than 6-7 years) then taking out a second mortgage will be more advisable then refinancing your present loan.

Do let me know if you have any other questions.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Tired in Tampa

I'm considering a second mortgage in order to buy another home. I would then rent my current place to a tenant and move into the new (less expensive) home in order to have a lower monthly mortgage payment. I owe $80K and my condo is worth about $240K. My current int rate is 5.75% on the first loan. If I took a second mortgage on my current home, can you estimate the monthly payment for me? I hope this makes sense...I'm exhausted. Thanks for your help!
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