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Stop paying second mortgage - What happens next?

Author: Jessica Bennet
Community Mentor
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Posted on: 17th Sep, 2008 12:30am
If you're in financial hardship and you're not paying second mortgage for 150-180 days from the due date, the lender may foreclose your property or file a lawsuit and seize your personal assets. Read through the section below and find out what happens if you stop paying second mortgage.



What happens if I stop paying second mortgage?


If you're not paying your second mortgage, and your home is upside down (combined balance on 1st and 2nd loan exceeds the home value), the lender may not file a foreclosure. That's because he'll have to pay off the first loan before he intends to retrieve the money he has invested on the 2nd loan.

However, even if the second lender forecloses and sells the home for less than the balance on 1st and 2nd loans, the law may not require you to pay the difference or deficiency balance provided the second mortgage is a non-recourse loan. Moreover, certain states have anti-deficiency laws which prevent one from paying the deficient amount provided the second mortgage (such as the 20% of an 80/20 loan) is used to purchase a primary residence.

However, if the second mortgage is a recourse loan, and your state doesn't follow the anti-deficiency laws, the deficiency balance needs to be paid off. In case you don't pay the deficiency or if the lender doesn't foreclose at all, here's what may happen:



  • Judgment/garnishment: The lender may file a lawsuit in the local court and get a judgment order to collect the unpaid balance. He can come after your assets such as bank account funds. The lender may have your wages garnished. Wage garnishment is a legal process in which an individual's earnings are partly or wholly withheld by the employer (as per court order) for repayment of debt.


  • Charge-off: The lender may issue a second mortgage charge off and assign or sell off your debt to a collection agency (CA). The agency will then try to collect the loan payments by all means. If you don't make any payment, here's what the CA can do:


    1. Harassing calls/letters: The collection agency is likely to harass you with repeated phone calls or payment notices/letters. They may even call you at odd hours and disturb you at your workplace, though such practices are against the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (law which governs the practices of CAs).



    2. CA may file lawsuit: The CA may even sue you thereby leading you to legal hassles. They may even get a judgment order from the court and go for wage garnishment or seize your bank accounts.

      However, if your second mortgage debt is well past the Statute of Limitation (SOL), the collection agency cannot file a lawsuit. Even if they threaten to sue you after the SOL is over, send a cease and desist letter stating that your debt has crossed the SOL, so they shouldn't contact you any more. Still if they harass you for payments, file a complaint with the FTC or State Attorney General.

What to do if I can't pay second loan


Once your home is sold off at a foreclosure auction, the second mortgage debt or the deficiency balance on it will be considered as an unsecured loan which you can pay off in monthly installments. In case you can't afford to pay the deficiency balance in full, you may negotiate a settlement with the lender or the collection agency to whom the lender may have assigned/sold off your debt.

Paying your second mortgage will help you minimize the chances of getting hit with negative remarks on your credit report. You can thus avoid trashing your credit score and improve your chances of getting loans in future.
Posted on: 17th Sep, 2008 12:30 am
i have a 1st & 2nd mtg and i have requested a short sale. i am able to make my 1st mtg payment but i do not have the funds to make my 2nd mtg pymt. if i stop paying second mortgage what happens? can the 2nd lender foreclose on my house? and if not, what happens to the 2nd loan? if they charge off & put a lien on my house, then i will never be able to sale it because i owe more than the house it worth? any advice? also, if they charge off & put a lien on my house, can i then bk it?
MY FRIEND AND I HAD A DUAL MORTGAGE. WE'RE PAYING 50:50. WHAT HAPPENS NOW IF HE REFUSES TO PAY OR FILE BANKRUPTCY?
Posted on: 14th Sep, 2011 12:31 pm
Welcome BRUNO,

If he refuses to pay the mortgage and if you want to save the property, then you will have to pay the mortgage in full. In such a situation, it will be better to refinance the mortgage. If he files bankruptcy, then you will become liable for the mortgage payments in full.
Posted on: 15th Sep, 2011 12:57 am
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Posted on: 16th Sep, 2011 04:00 am
I have a 1st & 2nd mtg and I have requeste a modificacion I am able to make my 1st mtg payment but,not my 2nd. Is whit the same bank,and I apply for a modificacion is even worst because the impound my taxes which i pay whit my tax refund now not avalible to pay. what will happend if i stop making payment's on the 2nd mtg, already behin 2 monts....
Posted on: 29th Sep, 2011 03:08 pm
Hi Liliana!

Welcome to forums!

If you stop making the payments, the lender will have the rights to foreclose the property. You should contact your second mortgage lender again and apply for a loan modification. If you can properly convince the lender, then he may offer you an affordable loan modification.

Feel free to ask if you've further queries.

Sussane
Posted on: 29th Sep, 2011 10:19 pm
my house was forclosed on 4 years ago and the 2nd mortage had been coming after me for almost 4 years with phone calls after phone call like a broken record. they have not threatned to sue me or garnish my check. However they keep negotioting less and less each year that passes. I owe them 200k and their last offer was 20,000. thats still too high for me, Im going to try to bring it down to 5,000.
Posted on: 12th Oct, 2011 08:50 pm
Hi RonPaul,

The second mortgage lender have the rights to come after you in order to recover as much dues as possible. The lender has offered you a settlement amount which is quite less compared to what you owe. In my opinion, you may set up a payment plan with them in order to pay off the debt. This will make it easier for you to get rid of the second mortgage.

Thanks
Posted on: 12th Oct, 2011 10:19 pm
my property is worth about £130,000. i think i have about £110,00 owed on the house and the 2nd mortgage amount is £17,000.
The second mortgage is taken out with Endeavour finance and they have passed it to Restons Solicitors.
Last week a recieved a notice served under the civil proceedure rule 55.10 with a corut date in Novemeber.
Is there anythin I can do?
Posted on: 17th Oct, 2011 09:15 am
Hi Guest!

Welcome to forums!

Well, though I'm not sure about UK real estate laws, you may apply to the court for the order for possession to be suspended.

Feel free to ask if you've further queries.

Sussane
Posted on: 17th Oct, 2011 10:58 pm
I have just recently completed a loan modification, that I am very happy with. I also have a second that was used for the puchase of my home RE(80/20 mortage. The origional lender of the second refused to modify and has since transfered to another company. I received a call form the new compant rep. who asked what can I do to settle this account, I informed him I had 5,000.00 available and he agreed that could settle the dept the amount owed is 45,000.00. I received a call a few weeks later from another rep. telling me 5,000.00 is not acceptable. My question is my house is worth 120,000.00 I owe 209,000.00 on the first that I am paying on time I owe 46,000.00 on the second, the home is occupied by me in the state of arizonia I am a business owner. How far can this company go to collect on this second mortage
Posted on: 21st Oct, 2011 11:43 am
hi eagle!

welcome to forums!

if you're unable to pay off the mortgage, then the second mortgage lender may charge off the debt and assign it to a collection agency. the collection agency can in turn harass you for the mortgage payments.

feel free to ask if you've further queries.

sussane
Posted on: 21st Oct, 2011 10:19 pm
Sounds like I am in the same boat as everyone else. I have a first (258,000) and a second that started at 105,00 and now is at 124,000. I couldn't make the payments on the second due to loss in wages. BofA said I qualified for a mod but never went through with it (they owned both loans via CountryWide)
I've been making full payments on the first and paying only 20.00 on the second. BofA has now sold both loans. First to one company, second to a Collection Agency. House is worth less than the first by about 20,000. I'm also in Calif. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Posted on: 03rd Nov, 2011 10:19 am
hi stuckwitha2nd,

if the lender does not receive the payments on time, then he has the rights to sell off the loan to some other lender or collection agency. as far as the first loan is concerned, you can apply for a deed in lieu of foreclosure and get rid of your property. however, you will have to negotiate with the collection agency and set up payment plan which will help you in paying off your second loan faster.
Posted on: 03rd Nov, 2011 09:19 pm
I HAVE FILED FOR BK OVER THREE YEARS AGO AND I AM STILL LIVING IN THE HOUSE 1ST IS ABOUT $147 K .2ND $48 K HOME WORTH IS $119 K .NEITHER ONE REPORT TO ANY CREDIT REPORTS .WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF I STOP PAYING SECOND ??
Posted on: 08th Nov, 2011 06:11 pm
I HAVE FILED FOR BK OVER THREE YEARS AGO AND I AM STILL LIVING IN THE HOUSE 1ST IS ABOUT $147 K .2ND $48 K HOME WORTH IS $119 K .NEITHER ONE REPORT TO ANY CREDIT REPORTS .WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF I STOP PAYING SECOND ??
Posted on: 08th Nov, 2011 06:13 pm
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