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Stop paying second mortgage - What happens next?

Author: Jessica Bennet
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Posted on: 17th Sep, 2008 12:30am
If you're in financial hardship and you're not paying second mortgage for 150-180 days from the due date, the lender may foreclose your property or file a lawsuit and seize your personal assets. Read through the section below and find out what happens if you stop paying second mortgage.



What happens if I stop paying second mortgage?


If you're not paying your second mortgage, and your home is upside down (combined balance on 1st and 2nd loan exceeds the home value), the lender may not file a foreclosure. That's because he'll have to pay off the first loan before he intends to retrieve the money he has invested on the 2nd loan.

However, even if the second lender forecloses and sells the home for less than the balance on 1st and 2nd loans, the law may not require you to pay the difference or deficiency balance provided the second mortgage is a non-recourse loan. Moreover, certain states have anti-deficiency laws which prevent one from paying the deficient amount provided the second mortgage (such as the 20% of an 80/20 loan) is used to purchase a primary residence.

However, if the second mortgage is a recourse loan, and your state doesn't follow the anti-deficiency laws, the deficiency balance needs to be paid off. In case you don't pay the deficiency or if the lender doesn't foreclose at all, here's what may happen:



  • Judgment/garnishment: The lender may file a lawsuit in the local court and get a judgment order to collect the unpaid balance. He can come after your assets such as bank account funds. The lender may have your wages garnished. Wage garnishment is a legal process in which an individual's earnings are partly or wholly withheld by the employer (as per court order) for repayment of debt.


  • Charge-off: The lender may issue a second mortgage charge off and assign or sell off your debt to a collection agency (CA). The agency will then try to collect the loan payments by all means. If you don't make any payment, here's what the CA can do:


    1. Harassing calls/letters: The collection agency is likely to harass you with repeated phone calls or payment notices/letters. They may even call you at odd hours and disturb you at your workplace, though such practices are against the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (law which governs the practices of CAs).



    2. CA may file lawsuit: The CA may even sue you thereby leading you to legal hassles. They may even get a judgment order from the court and go for wage garnishment or seize your bank accounts.

      However, if your second mortgage debt is well past the Statute of Limitation (SOL), the collection agency cannot file a lawsuit. Even if they threaten to sue you after the SOL is over, send a cease and desist letter stating that your debt has crossed the SOL, so they shouldn't contact you any more. Still if they harass you for payments, file a complaint with the FTC or State Attorney General.

What to do if I can't pay second loan


Once your home is sold off at a foreclosure auction, the second mortgage debt or the deficiency balance on it will be considered as an unsecured loan which you can pay off in monthly installments. In case you can't afford to pay the deficiency balance in full, you may negotiate a settlement with the lender or the collection agency to whom the lender may have assigned/sold off your debt.

Paying your second mortgage will help you minimize the chances of getting hit with negative remarks on your credit report. You can thus avoid trashing your credit score and improve your chances of getting loans in future.
Posted on: 17th Sep, 2008 12:30 am
i have a 1st & 2nd mtg and i have requested a short sale. i am able to make my 1st mtg payment but i do not have the funds to make my 2nd mtg pymt. if i stop paying second mortgage what happens? can the 2nd lender foreclose on my house? and if not, what happens to the 2nd loan? if they charge off & put a lien on my house, then i will never be able to sale it because i owe more than the house it worth? any advice? also, if they charge off & put a lien on my house, can i then bk it?
i find it hard to believe that there would be a statute of limitations on a second mortgage. unless a mortgage (first, second, third, ad nauseum) is released, it remains a lien on the property until it is paid in full.
Posted on: 21st Jan, 2010 10:08 am
I have a 1st with for 291k and a 2nd with different co. for 36k. my house is only worth 270k. I have been current on payments. If I stop paying the 2nd would they consider a smaller payoff eg...like5k-10k, or more likely to send me to collections or garnish wages?
Posted on: 25th Jan, 2010 09:15 pm
My daughter and son in law cannot pay their mortgage. The home will probably be forclosed on. Can the lender withhold their interest statement for what they paid on the mortgage because they cannot pay any more?
Posted on: 26th Jan, 2010 06:33 am
delong, based on what i've seen in postings the last few weeks, i'd have to think that your second mortgage lender is more likely to send you to collections. now that might mean (ultimately) that there'll be a settlement for less than what you owe, but for now, that probably means the full balance.

snickle, the answer to that question is "no." is there a suspicion that this lender would be that crude?
Posted on: 26th Jan, 2010 07:20 am
I have a first of $500,000 and a second of $750,000. I tried to sell the house and the best offer was $715,000. If I do not pay my second what are the odds of them paying the first off? If they sell the house in an action they will most likely get around $650,000. Would the bank put out 500k to get back 650k?
Posted on: 27th Jan, 2010 05:01 am
if the interest rates go up too high. I probably would be able to pay my equity loan. Just my home loan. Can they forclose on my? My home is worth less that my loan combined. Would I have to pay the remainder of the loan. Or can they garnish my paycheck? and what if two persons are on the equity loan only. do they go after the second person? My email if you can send me an answer. "care92262@hotmail.com"

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Posted on: 27th Jan, 2010 04:58 pm
I have a dillema. I am making less money now due to losing a contract and must file bankruptcy due to credit card debts, etc. I am upside down in my mortgage and have a first for $435k and a second for $95k. The house is worth MAYBE $325K. If I file for Ch. 13 - the second mortgage just goes away <poof> but I make payments for 5 years. If I file Ch. 7, everything goes away except the 2 mortgages, but I can't afford the payment on the second. What do you all think I should do?
Posted on: 28th Jan, 2010 08:14 am
just like many others who have posted i have a 2nd that was a home equity loan for 50k. house is worth 200k and i owe 300k on the 1st. had a bk in 2009 chapter 7 so i am not liable for the 2nd, however the bank who has the 2nd is sending me threatening letters saying they will consider taking my house and there is a lien. please ... will they really do this when they would have to pay an extra 100k on the first and collect nothing???? i need to know before i talk to these sharks.

:(

thanks
david
Posted on: 30th Jan, 2010 05:24 pm
David, sounds like a collector using tactics. check on that first.
Posted on: 30th Jan, 2010 11:31 pm
I can't afford my first and second mtg it's with the same bank . my taxes are separate . I live in new jersey . what happens if I stop paying all mtgs and taxes ? My husband lost his job.
Posted on: 31st Jan, 2010 09:06 am
I have a rental that used to be my primary home. It has been a rental for the last seven years. In 2006, I got an equity loan for $166,000. $80,000 of that loan from the same bank was used as a down payment on a different real estate purchase.
Within a few months of receiving the loans, I discovered both of these properties had drastically negative equity.
I have continued to pay the first mortgage,(which is the rental), and the bank tried to settle with me for $80,000 on the $166,000.
I cannot collect enough rent to pay both mortgages.
I had to let the other house go to 1099A.
What advice can you give?
Posted on: 03rd Feb, 2010 12:33 am
To D,

The lender would start a foreclosure procedure against you if you stop paying the debts. This will affect your credit score badly. It will get reduced by 250 points. Also, you won't be able to qualify for a home loan immediately. You'll have to wait for 3-4 years for it.

To guest,

You can apply for a loan modification with your lender to save the property. If your lender agrees to it, it would become easier for you to pay off the loan.
Posted on: 03rd Feb, 2010 03:24 am
I have a home in CALIFORNIA that i use to live in but no longer do, i currently have renters in it. I was given a loan about 5 years ago for the home which i bought for 380,000. I put 80,000 dollars down for the house. I currently owe 325,000 because of neg-am loan putting money on the back end. I have a first mortage for 300,000 and a second for the rest. I haven't paid on either loan for 7-8 months. The first mortgatge company Back of AMerica has not contacted me at all, the second has and i told them i wanted help, they said they couldn't till i defaulted so that is what i did. The second has since given my loan to a debt collection agency. What are my options and what should i do? if there is anyone that has been through this or knows what to do i would love to hear from you.
Thank you good luck to you all :(

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Posted on: 04th Feb, 2010 10:00 am
Hi Patrick,

Your query has been answered in the given page:
http://www.mortgagefit.com/california/walkaway-debtcollection.html

Please take a look. I hope it will help you.

Sussane
Posted on: 04th Feb, 2010 09:44 pm
I have a 1st and 2nd mortgage with the same bank. I am upside down in the 1st. What are some of my options. I do not wan to lose my house. I have had a decrease in my income and it is getting harder and harder to make ends meet. I am current on my mortgae for now. What are my options?
Posted on: 12th Feb, 2010 04:20 pm
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